One glaring omission from the previous post on Wall Street Myths was the topic of drugs. It deserves a full post. Over under says you’ll do them. Instead of wasting time debating about drugs, here’s the breakdown so you can choose as you wish.
Party Favors
Cocaine: This is the real winner here in terms of a drug that can help you get what you want, attractive girls and enough energy to stay awake. As mentioned previously, the first 2 years in finance are the worst so this is usually when you’ll be dabbling more in cocaine.
Pro’s: Girls who do coke are generally thinner, crazier and easier to sleep with. The oversight on cocaine is much lower than crack even though it is the same drug and carries a much lower sentence if you’re busted for possession (don’t worry no one “saves” coke like they do with weed). It is also easy to come by. Finally, your boss will not care remember that first day on the job “Now I’m not telling you not to do drugs just don’t let it take over your life”. Understood.
Con’s: Expensive, $60 for a gram, $200 for an 8-ball for quality when you first get into the “scene”. In addition, it is much more likely you will become addicted to this drug versus other narcotics such as weed, mushrooms, or extacy. Supposedly, over the long-term it can damage your ability to have sex.
Extacy: This is likely the runner up, girls who go to raves are certainly crazy and you can easily stay up all night partying when you drop for the first time. The latest and greatest running around are mollies and don’t believe these are healthier for you it’s all the same.
Pro’s: It is cheap. Raves, massives in particular, are chock full of girls who are ready to have sex. Some of these places are so large you’re bound to do well, just check out Ultra Music Festival in Florida. You will feel extremely happy and will be “in the zone” all night so even a guy with weak game will feel like he is king of the world.
Con’s: Long-term effects are quite harsh and it is tough to keep up a meaningful life-style running in these crowds. With that said it is not a smart drug to run more than in a rare once or twice a year situation.
Weed/Shrooms:Lumping these two drugs into the same group is not really fair but may as well keep it simple. Girls in these groups are usually more free-spirited and “in touch with themselves”. So as such, no bump in terms of attractiveness.
Pro’s: Cheap and weed is even legal with a card in places like California.
Con’s: Can have a bad trip on shrooms.
Heroine, Methamphetamines, Acid, Crack, Painkillers: Just avoid them, cost benefit analysis weighs heavily on the negative side.
Mental Stimulants
Adderall: A great drug for concentration and staying awake simply running a half pill of an XR-30 will give you a large increase in production.
Pro’s: Also very easy access. Simply walk into any top law school.
Con’s: The impact of the drug wanes over time, so like any other drug its good to know when to pull the trigger and use it and when to simply rough it and go clean. The negative long-term impact is reliance.
Provigil: A blog we follow has a good video on this and overall it comes in second behind adderall in terms of effectiveness for increasing mental capacity. Long-term impacts are not determined. Also the impact is not immediate like XR-30′s it is rather mild in comparison.
Pro’s: Easy access and relatively cheap if you want to try it out for a month or two.
Con’s: Already noted, tough to see the long-term impact.
Physical
Ativan: This one is a must if you want to really excel in Wall Street or have a job that requires red-eye flights. Simply using a couple of these during major awful business trips such as coast to coast meetings twice in a week will make your life much more pleasant. This one does not even deserve a pro/con situation because it is cheap, is relatively harmless on your body and will make you perform much better in meetings and keep that positive vibe flowing. “Who flies drug free nowadays? I bet even the pilot runs them”
Steroids: The negatives on steroids are pretty outlandish, simply put if you want to run a cycle one day to gain muscle weight go for it. Much like all other drugs the chances of dying on first use if done properly are practically nothing. Just don’t run heavy steroids all the time, run them incorrectly and expect to remain healthy long-term. A few friends have run steroids while at work and it does not turn you into an ape smashing computer screens and breaking mice (any higher than average) because your excel sheet just crashed on you.
Pro’s: Keeps your testosterone levels at high rates or normal rates if you are a much older man. Can see muscle gains that you keep.
Con’s: Can certainly damage your liver or sexual functions.
As a final note illegal substances for sports should pretty much be legalized in our view, in an ideal world only pro-sports should be 100% clean but it is quite easy to obtain drugs nowadays so may as well have everything run properly so less people get hurt trying to run drugs to compete with guys who are … Already running drugs.
Conclusion: With a gun to your head the ones you want to keep around that will help you the most in terms of work performance and sex life are cocaine, ativan and adderall. Alcohol and caffiene are likely going to be used in moderation as well. The real point, is to get results from the drugs you decide to dabble in. So be efficient and don’t use adderall to party, crack to get girls and a triple espresso to crash out on your red-eye flight.
So what happens if you try to get through your first two years on the street just going clean? A family friend has been a neurosurgeon for thirty years and all he uses to stay awake is caffeine. If a brain surgeon can get through a 26 hour call without doing some blow off the operating table, why can’t an investment banker get through his day the same way?
So the problem is the “read between the lines” issue.
Anyone can do their whole career clean. This of course makes the chances of you being a type A “square bear” infinitely higher and the chances of you maintaining a normal sex life also infinitely lower as coke is a party drug not an efficient mental drug like adderall or provigil. Some guys run coke for work as well but that’s really just inefficient and unhealthy.
Hope that clears things up. By year four it’s pretty much a cake walk to run drug free if you want and still have a normal life, unless you’re really trying to be a “star” which means your political skills need work.
I hate you for not throwing Red Bull in the mix
Redbull is for losers, Yerba Mate & Red Eyes is where it’s at.
Note alcohol is pretty much water so that’s certainly not on the drug list.
Wth are “red eyes”
FYI: Im taking the LSAT for law school next Saturday. How could Adderall help ?
Red Eye = Coffee with a Shot Of espresso.
Adderall is a drug typically used by highly competitive students (increases focus)
Provigil is usually prescribed to people with narcolepsy (another alert type drug)
“Now I’m not telling you not to do drugs just don’t let it take over your life”.
I love Red Bull but there is lots of negativity about it. Anyway, Red Bull contains taurine which can help with focus.
It takes certain tolerance though and a love for cough-syrup/Jagermeister taste.
Great post, you actually know what the hell you’re talking about, too. Coke, ativan (or any benzo’s for that matter, although xanax can fuck people up too much), and adderall are the best/most useful drugs. I go to a top 25 university, work 30+ hours at two jobs, and go out 4-5 night a week. That would not be possible without these little helpers. Although coke is, bar none, the best drug to make the panties drop, benzos and adderall can also help you in that respect, in that one will make you the chillest dude around and the other will make you want to talk to people (try combining them for an incredible synergy, but BE CAREFUL). Ecstasy makes me feel stupid for days afterward, and doesn’t help in closing in the deal even though I’m “in the zone”. Main thing to avoid, even though its second to booze in terms of use, is pot- waste of fucking time and takes the fire out of your belly. Granted there is a time and place for it, ie before bed or you have friggin glaucoma. Agreed, redbull blows, and makes you bloated. Water, booze, and coffee are the only three things a man should drink(okay, maybe a little milk).
If you’re not into the whole illegal thing, getting a scrip for wellbutrin (anti-depressant that works on the dopamine-norepinephrine pathway with some effects on acetylcholine) is probably a good plan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion instead of cocaine that is probably doped with a number of other nasty things (seriously, a lot of the coke in the US is cut with vet drugs that have nasty sides). If you do that stuff and get on low dose cialis, you’ll probably be a sex fiend.
Also, modafinil is way underrated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil this shit is awesome, you’re just…awake, no other way to describe it.
Why would you lump LSD with heroin, crack and painkillers? LSD pretty much = shrooms squared. No other drug allows you to trip so deeply into your own mind.
Physically, there’s no real danger, unlike the other drugs you lumped it with. Mentally though, it could affect you in a serious way by changing your perspective on life.
I’m guessing few of these wall street “playboys” have actually tried it.
Correct we don’t use the product. As always follow the money and find what kind of drugs successful people use.
Most people on weed/LSD/shrooms are… Broke losers.
Do you honestly think that successful people don’t use LSD once in awhile? LSD has been used for decades by successful writers, philosophers, musicians, artists, and yes even those in business/commerce. I.e. Beatles/Stones, Steve Jobs, Aldous Huxley, Stanley Kubrick, Bill Gates …
LSD and other psychedelics have been used in rituals for spiritual awakening and transcendence since the beginning of civilization. In fact, most people who have done acid have largely great things to say about it. Throwing it in with heroin or crack and stating “cost benefit analysis weighs heavily on the negative side” is quite close-minded. Right, I forgot this website is chiefly concerned with lifting, sex and money.
I don’t want to shit on this blog, because most of the posts are entertaining and contain insightful lessons. However, it’s important in life to be able to explore more mature, deeper issues beyond bros, hos and blow.
Of course successful people have used LSD and even Heroine etc. There are also some hedge fund guys who run a lot of shrooms as well.